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Could Pot Be Legal in Missouri, Ever?

Colorado and Washington voters said yes to measures to legalize marijuana. Could it ever happen here? Petitions have been circulated in University City and elsewhere in the Show-Me State. Would you support it?

 

On the heels of ballot initiatives in Colorado and Washington that successfully legalized recreational use of pot by its residents, could it happen here in the Show-Me State?

A petition drive to put it on the Nov. 6 ballot obviously failed, in spite of efforts around the state to get enough signatures. Activitists brought the drive to The U City Loop in February and the Eureka branch of the St. Louis Public Library in March.

Informal polls on Eureka-Wildwood Patch and University City Patch showed overwhelming support for legalization. But, of course, they're self-selecting polls, not scientific.

Most of us probably missed the Nov. 3 conference on the subject of legalizing pot in Missouri, hosted by the Show-Me Cannabis organizers. 

A study by the National Cannabis Coalition in conjunction with Show-Me Cannabis found that legal (and taxable) pot would generate substantial cash for the state budget, according to an article last month in the Riverfront Times.

The $149 million comes from several different places, but mostly from no longer having to police and prosecute pot smokers.

According to Show-Me Cannabis's John Payne, the group commissioned the study while their 2012 legalization campaign was still alive and well. Because of that, Missouri's study came out first, but he says there will be studies for all 50 states at some point.

According to Dr. Miron's figures, Missouri's government would save $90 million annually and generate $59 million from taxing legalized marijuana like cigarettes and booze.

We have to assume that most people don't like the idea of legalizing pot in the state, since the petitition drive did not successfully put it on the Nov. 6 ballot.

But is it just a matter of time? Advocates aren't going away. The efforts are continuing. Why do you oppose it? Or why do you support legalization, if you do?

Related Topics: Colorado Legalized Pot, Washington Legalized Pot, election 2012, and participate 2012

Caffeinated

7:22 am on Sunday, November 11, 2012

I think marijuana should be legalized for medical and recreational use, then tax and regulate it seven ways to Sunday.

The benefits to state coffers are well-enumerated in the article. I don't think it any worse than alcohol and the moral objections don't seem any different to legalized gambling. The corollaries to Prohibition are many. It was silly then, and it's silly now.

On another note, I had no idea there was a petition and am somewhat up-to-date on local news and initiatives, then again I don't frequent tokeofthetown.com. Perhaps better "grassroots" organization is needed?

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Rahib

1:53 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Why do you write, "then tax and regulate it seven ways to Sunday."

If this would be a new commodity, why would it get extra taxation? Isn't that unfair?

BTW, one can drink themselves into alcohol poisoning and die - it is completely impossible to overdose on MJ.

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Sharon Miller

9:23 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

To Caffeinated...We certainly have wasted enough tax payer money to get rid of the illegal stuff..if we legallized the stuff...imagine how fat the state coffers would get..the general fund would actually have to send money to the schools,where it should have gone all the time!!

Christine Stewart Mehigh

7:35 am on Sunday, November 11, 2012

The few studies that have been done on the effects of Marijuana use on the brain show a negative effect upon the Hippocampus and the amygdala, responsible for learning and emotion processing respectively. Those studies were small, and only done on males. Currently, there is also some data showing a negative effect upon motivation. Not enough is really known about this drug, and it is much more potent that in days past. I think we should wait for more data before making a decision on this one.

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Caffeinated

7:40 am on Sunday, November 11, 2012

There are literally hundreds of such studies. Add on to them more recent studies that indicate carcinogenic causation as well.

I suppose I'm questioning why we legalize tobacco, alcohol, and gambling when there are hundreds of studies that also substantiate equivalent problems to both individuals and society.

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Christine Stewart Mehigh

12:21 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012

Brain imaging studies in chronic users tend to show some consistent alterations, but their connection to impaired cognitive functioning is far from clear. This uncertainty may stem from confusing factors such as other drug use, residual drug effects, or withdrawal symptoms in long-term chronic users. Nine percent of all users become addicted, and there are negative consequences for the heart, lungs, and other body systems as well. I also question why tobacco and alcohol are legal based upon what they also do to the body.

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Rahib

1:53 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Those others are legal due to strong lobbies. That's all. No mystery.

monica emerson

9:24 am on Sunday, November 11, 2012

I would support this. I am sick of our police department having to spend time and tax money going after people smoking a plant they can grow in the yard. Heroine is a problem of our times. This is killing people. Alcohol and prescription pills are a problem of our time. It has been for many years. How much further could we have been if we would have taken all the money spent on a yard weed , and put it toward the education of alcohol and heroine . How many lives would have been saved? I have come in contact with various young people on various drugs and I have to say marijuana , in my opinion, should not be called a gateway drug. Prescription pills and alcohol seem to be the main gateway drugs. I don't care if people want to smoke a plant . I say pass it , tax it , and give our police department a well deserved break .

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PaulRevere

2:21 pm on Saturday, December 1, 2012

Monica:
According to you "pass it, tax it and give the police a break" are justification for legal use of mari.
Our state already has the rights to Tax it.
It's called "Use tax". (under the Barter economy laws).
The police will need more recruits as the Pot-driving accidents and Pot parties will gain much headline news. I would estimate the DUI laws would be used for any MARI
smoking individual. AS THEY SHOULD.
There would not be less police enforcement.

Margaret Poynter

9:32 am on Sunday, November 11, 2012

Never say never, but Missouri will probably be the last of 51(?) states to legalize marajuana.

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Rahib

1:54 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

We have 50 states, currently.

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JoseH

9:50 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

If there are 50 states Mo. will be #52 in any progressive issue.

Rob Rodermund

9:40 am on Sunday, November 11, 2012

The reason the ballot initiative failed to get sufficient signatures is simple: people were afraid (especially young people) that if they signed the petition, they'd be labeled as pot smokers and harassed by the police.

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Just Saying

10:14 am on Sunday, November 11, 2012

Missouri voters said no to the Missouri tobacco taxes again.

Make pot legal and tax the legal sale of it. Legalizing pot would be a win/win situtation for Missouri. Our law enforcement agencies could focus on bigger criminals, we would be paying less to house the marijuana sellers in Missouri prisons and we would be collecting tax on the legal sales of marijuana!

People smoke pot just like they smoke cigarettes, drink liquor and visit the casinos. Legalizing it will put tons of money in Missouri's coffers. For those who believe that smokers will be driving under the influence......they already do....

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Rahib

1:55 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

. . . . driving slower and more carefully than the rest of us.

Chris Michael Hampton

10:27 am on Sunday, November 11, 2012

I Oppose legalizing pot in missouri,Beacause it's dangerous,Illeagal and I Want all Pot Smokers Arrested,Taken Into Custody,Brought To Justice,Prosecuted To The Fullest Extent of the Law,Punished,Tried,Indicted In A Court Of Law And Locked Up In
Jail Permantly To Crack Down On MArijuana In Missouri Pernamtly Now. i Stand My Ground

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MUTiger87@gmail.com

10:39 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012

Are you sure it should be pernamt?

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TLS

8:21 am on Monday, November 12, 2012

@Chris Michael Hampton...I'm just curious, why are you so against it. Did you have a bad experience with pot or come across a pot smoker and had a bad interaction with that person? This is not at all sarcasm, I sincerely would like to know why you are so against it?

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Rahib

1:57 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

You oppose it because it's illegal??? Really?

It's not dangerous - not possible to overdose, considered a mild hallucinogen and not addictive.

Our jails are full and crowded with violent offenders - pot smokers are non-violent offenders and not a danger to society, unless you have a bag of chips in your hand.

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Jamie Adams

10:22 am on Thursday, January 10, 2013

You should be issued a citation for illegal use of the ShIfT key.

Bonnie Krueger

3:43 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012

Marijuana is a gateway drug to more dangerous drugs, like the heroin epidemic in St. Louis. Do we really need to legalize yet another dangerous drug to increase crime and accidents? Seriously, the moral decline of this world is really frightening. What are people thinking?

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Rahib

1:59 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

How is it a gateway drug?

Wouldn't alcohol be the real gateway drug as more homes have beer and spirits on hand more often than pot laying around?

Are you a psychologist?

Tammy Setzer Denton

4:02 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012

I believe the legalization and taxation of marijuana would be beneficial to Missouri. It would free up law enforcement officers to crack down on meth and heroin which are incredibly more addicting and dangerous. Economically, Missouri would benefit from the taxes as well as an increase in small businesses opening in the area. Lastly, it would eliminate the need/use of synthetic marijuana which is detrimental to anyone who smokes it. Like anything (alcohol, cigarettes, work, exercise, food,etc.), marijuana can be abused, but it's up to the user to decided when enough is enough.

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prianna winkelman

5:58 pm on Friday, November 30, 2012

i respect your opinion. but if you think about it, it will ruin the world severely. i mean, if they legalize the drug then it will cut a hole in the ozone. not just that, but the children and the animals will become effected. AND the pollution rate will sky rocket. the people who smoke will most likely throw it on the ground. this is everyone's home. it shouldn't be treated like that persons bedroom. if the ice melts over and drowns everyone, whose fault will that be?

Sonny Pondrom

4:09 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012

I think we should wait and find out how Colorado and Washington do with reduced crime, more taxes money and health problems.

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Sonny Pondrom

4:10 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012

After all, we are the "show me" state. :-)

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Rahib

2:00 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Or we could look at Amsterdam. Initially they had a spike in usage, but later it fell back to it's normal levels as people who tried it didn't like it for them.

Jesda Gulati

6:44 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012

Filling prisons with non-violent drug offenders results in the release of pedophiles and rapists due to overcrowding.

So, if you're against marijuana legalization, you support pedophiles.

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MUTiger87@gmail.com

10:36 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012

Laugh Out Loud. Is this a serious post? Someone needs to cut down on the ganj before picking up the keyboard.

Rick Halfacre

7:31 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012

Smoking pot makes you lazy and stupid!

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MUTiger87@gmail.com

10:38 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012

And drinking beer makes people fat and fatties gorgeous.

EE

8:37 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012

People become addicted and abuse prescribed drugs that a doctor gives them. So the point is ANYONE CAN ABUSE ANYTHING.
People have to take responsibility for their own actions. Period. The good far outweighs the bad in this scenario. Legalize and tax it - the state and country need the cash stream.

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Christine Stewart Mehigh

6:05 am on Monday, November 12, 2012

EE, some people cannot control what they do after they start taking a drug. It's called "addiction" and until you've seen it or experienced it you have no idea how incapable a person can be in controlling this. Most would like to be more responsible for what they do, but are almost incapable of doing so. Until we have a better handle on addiction I say lets wait and see what happens in these other states, I'm sure they will give us lots to think about.

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Rebecca K

8:54 am on Monday, November 12, 2012

@ Christine S M
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-teenage-mind/201012/is-marijuana-addictive
according to the article
Pot is less addictive then alcohol and tobacco.
I support legalization because marijuana prosecution is a waste of money. It would be better and safer for our population is it was legal and regulated, not least of all because users would have access to commercially made edible pot products which eliminate the users exposure to the ill effects of smoking. And women who wish there were a version of Viagra for females to help with low libido may be especially appreciative of safe, legal marijuana, and their partners too.

R. Kohn

7:45 am on Monday, November 12, 2012

I'm a middle aged, skilled professional as well as a USN veteran. I fully support full, regulated legalization.
But we have several hurdles to leap before that happens.
To begin with the stereotype of the average user being a 'Stoner who lives in their parent's basement' is being broken as many professionals in all fields are occasional users. Next, the pharmaceutical companies are trying like hell to block and such legalization moves. They know they will lose millions when people discover marijuana use has many medicinal uses without the bizarre side effects possible with some of the so-called medicines being legally sold.
Last, we have law enforcement that has been making millions in unjustly prosecution and convection of the average user. Filling our overcrowded jails with users, when they could be emptied for real criminals.
Just like the civil and women's rights. we will overcome once these stereotypes and those who believe them die

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D. Walker

3:59 pm on Monday, November 12, 2012

If marijanna is needed for medical purposes then it should be a controlled drug and, filled like any other controlled drug through prescriptions filled pharmacists. Not pot dealers.

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susan nation

6:12 pm on Monday, November 12, 2012

KEEP IT OUT OF THE HANDS OF CHILDREN 1-21 YEARS OF AGE

Hmmmm...what broke the back of organized crime in the 1980s? Legalized gambling. Meanwhile, politicians tax and generate income out of legalized gambling and create a new set of problems - promising that the legal gambling funds would go to education. Well they go to education, in the form of state grants that support everything but the kids - mostly directed at teachers and unions. For example, in Chicago - gambling revenue offsets the immense employee benefit deficit. Still it is not enough.

Legalize marijuana? Same as above - the economic benefits will increase gov't bureacracy spending.

However, unlike some of the above comments - substantial studies/research from nations that have engaged in longtitudenal studies - both single and double trials proves that maryjane has a negative effect on growing adolescent brains.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/aug/27/cannabis-damaging-under-18s-study

Lung Cancer increases according to the French:
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/healthy_kids/Can-Marijuana-Prevent-Cancer.html
http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/2012/jun/07/marijuana_discord_french_left

But then when politicians want to game more votes and spend more money - its an issue that sends many to the polls to vote for it - like in Colorado and Wisconsin. Who the heck cares about the vulnerable when it comes to voting time.

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Tyler j Perry

12:41 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012

First of all I just want to say anyone who classifys marijuana as a drug is stupid. Drugs are man made. Addiction is all mental and if someone can't control there thought's that's on them. Some people need Marijuana for health problems, Other's stress. I personally smoke illeagally because my bone's ache all the time and smoking Marijuana relives all my pain. Relaxes my body so that I may sleep. It's a plant and God made all nature correct? The bible state's that they were smoking opiuts. If he didn't want us to smoke it he wouldn't have put it here. Marijuana is a medicine from earth. Leagalize it and Tax it. Maybe we can get this country outta debt and go after the real drugs, Meth, Crack cocain, Molly, Acid, DMT, 2CP, Harrion, Black tar harrion, and anyother man made drugs. Get off people's ass about a natrual plant and go after the real criminals. I stand my grand. God Bless.

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MIKE K

7:07 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012

In answer to your question, Missouri will never legalize pot, not in a million years.

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Dee Magee

12:26 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Years ago all you got was a pot ticket if the police caught you. It was about as serious as jay walking. Now they want to cart you off to jail and you spend a fortune on lawyers and court costs. Legalize it. You will create jobs for the farmers and will somewhat regulate the price and quality and the state will get sales tax just like they do for cigarettes and beer. It is a natural substance like tobacco not a manufactured drug. However, Missouri is backwards and super conservative so I doubt that legalization will happen anytime soon. It will be interesting to follow how things go in Colorado and Washington.

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Jacqueline Harrison

6:42 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

I'm going to say this, most of what I am reading above is inaccurate. Gateway drug is any drug, prescription, alcohol, cigs, etc...that doesn't mean we will fall victim to other drugs, that depends on the person. When I was in college I made better grades while smoking MJ and when I stopped, my grades dropped...all that crap about your brain is a myth and no studies have shown bad effects on your heart...look at Willie Nelson AND I'd rather be in a room with a bunch of mellow folks rather than drunk folks OR driving on the road for that matter. Maybe people should Google the reason why it was made illegal in the first place......

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Candace Jarrett

4:24 am on Thursday, December 20, 2012

Good point Jacqueline. It was once legal before it was realized how highly addictive and profitable tobacco could be. Then came those wonderful people called lobbyist to make it illegal causing farmers to need a new product. In comes tobacco.

Jacqueline Harrison

6:56 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Rick Halfacre...you'd be surprised how many function in society every single day and work a full-time job...they're on the roads everyday....

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Brian Feldt

10:55 am on Thursday, January 10, 2013

Comments have been deleted for promoting illegal activity.

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MIKE K

4:37 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

Hell no to legal pot in Missouri, Ok in Illinois because they are a bunch of heathen
Democrats.

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LA

5:08 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

What kills me is in today's society there are a lot of drug dealers out there. Some specifically sell just weed. In stl there are many killings for drug deal gone wrong. Or people getting robbed and killed because they are known to have a large amounts in their home. If they make it legal I'm sure they will see a large decrease in the amount of killings because it will put the dealers out of business. I'm sure that dealer won't have better then what will be put on the shelf for purchase. I don't believe the numbers of users will increase massively. Legal or non-legal if one wants to use it they will weather able to be purchased at a store or from a house around the corner. What gets me is acholol is legal which in the event of that how many deaths arises from acholol. Millions and still counting. From car accidents #1 reason, then to acholol poisoning, liver failure, and dong just plain stupid things that resulted in death. If they was to legalize then that will create a lot of jobs, save a lot of people failing drug that due to usage and be able to work, tax will help with the state income, relieve jails of petty arrests. Some tend to forget that weed is a plant with no additives of man made chemicals. But the same people who object the matter are probable the ones who go home from work and have a drink.

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Harley

1:20 am on Friday, March 22, 2013

You know what people that don't smoke POT shut the hell up because your really don't know how pot effect people n it don't make people stupid n I'm living proof I smoked it while going to school n I made all a's n b's. so quit your winning n as far as pot accidents hahaha try another excuse n if u eat the seed it restores ur memory I know that for a fact!n as it being classified as a gate way drug well I got something to say to u on that note shut the hell up u don't know what ur talking about n shove it up ur ass for as us POT HEADS cares

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Rufus Jones

8:02 am on Friday, March 22, 2013

Yeah, quit your "winning". I think you've eaten too many seeds there Harley. Harley here is the prime example why Marijuana will not be legalized in Missouri, because if your lobbyists are half as burnt out as he is they are better off being quiet, or in Harley's case not posting.

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PaulRevere

1:56 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013

Harley:
This is truly a master "riding". A clever way that says it all.
I'm going to frame this and post it on my "horsesase".

PaulRevere

1:50 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013

1) What is the definition of "Recreational".
Driving under Drug use subjected to "murder" charges , if you "Pot and "drive.
and kill anyone while in an accident.
How's that for some Pot use control.

Of course, it's your body. I could care less about what you smoke, drink, or eat.
After all, Drinking is also a "recreational" substance.
Yet, over 50,000 annually "maimed" or Killed with that "recreation product"
Now that's some sport that could use a better "helmet".

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