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Ask the Patch Pro: MoDOT Answers Your Questions

MoDOT expert Linda Wilson Horn will answer your questions in the comments section on Friday, Feb. 22.

 

It's time for another edition of Ask the Patch Pro, where each week we tackle a different topic and open up the comments section for questions. Our team of experts stop in to help you out and answer your questions.

This week, Patch teamed up with the Missouri Department of Transportation (MoDOT) to answer your road, construction and traffic questions. 

MoDOT Community Relations Coordinator Linda Wilson Horn has agreed to help us out. She will answer readers' questions in the comment section of the Patch sites on Friday, Feb. 22.  

Have a question? Ask below!

Related Topics: Ask The Patch Pro, Construction, Missouri Department Of Transportation, MoDOT, Road Conditions, Roads, Traffic, and Winter Storm

bobcat

7:21 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

Since the Wentzville area is becoming more populated,has there been any consideration about lowering the speed limit on Interstate 70 to 60 MPH instead of 70 MPH.This is no longer a rural area.The speed of these trucks really increases the noise pollution.

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Linda Wilson Horn

9:19 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

The speed limit currently drops from 70 to 65 before the first Wentzville exit at Pierce Blvd. Then we drop to 60 mph before I-64. At this time we haven't looked at moving that any further west. I will forward your comment to our area engineer so they can review that.

Jackie Marler

7:29 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

Why haven't there been any upgrades to the section of road spanning between Immanuel Lutheran, the south school campus, and the new Catholic church? Hwy N is dangerous enough without the school traffic. Every day, we have thousands of students, parents, and teachers risking their safety to simply enter/leave these schools. Does this section of highway belong to Wentzville or the county? How can the public push for stop lights or other improvements to this hazardous area?

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Linda Wilson Horn

10:25 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

I've had two other similar questions on Route N this morning. We are planning to add shoulders from Sommers Road to Z next year. Working on long term widening plans as funding is available.

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Jackie Marler

1:42 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

Linda, Is there any possibility of at least improving the intersection of Hwy N and Perry Cate soon? That is the main culprit, and all other entrances/exits in that strip of road would benefit from that one intersection controlled by a stop light. I realize the funding isn't there to improve all of Hwy N, but how difficult is it normally to get a traffic signal added? A dedicated right turn lane from westbound Hwy N onto Perry Cate, with a traffic signal, would greatly reduce the risk for students and teachers.

If MoDOT did a traffic study of that strip of Hwy N that goes from Immanuel Lutheran west to the Catholic church, they would see a nightmare of people pulling out in front of oncoming traffic, people turning west out of the elementary school - just to pull a U-turn in the Catholic church entrance because there's very little opportunity to turn east out of the schools, buses that have to stop in the middle of the road to let other buses and traffic proceed for safety reasons, and on and on. It's a mess!

M

7:30 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

At the intersection of Olive & Chesterfield Parkway, some confused drivers (elderly or inebriated) turn left at Charlie Gitto's from the Hill into one way traffic. Could a No Left Turn sign be installed there or more police presence?

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Linda Wilson Horn

9:20 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

I know right where you are talking about. I will have our traffic engineers check and see if another sign should be installed there.

Mendi Baker

8:17 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

Highway N from I64 to the (very confusing) intersection at Highways N and Z is dangerous! At the very least, the road needs shoulders. Traffic is very heavy during rush hour and school release. Perry Cate needs a traffic light that operates during those times.

Wentzville Parkway over I70 is confusing where it goes from two lanes to three lanes and back to two lanes. Signage and road painting should mark lane shift.

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Linda Wilson Horn

10:25 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

MoDOT is planning next year to add resurface and add shoulders to Route N from the intersection at Sommers Road to Route Z. We are also talking with St. Charles County officials regarding long term improvements of perhaps adding lanes.
I will have the striping checked on Wentzville Parkway over I-70.

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Mendi Baker

3:54 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

On the Parkway: thanks for the review. I was hit at the lane shift (right/northbound) and started paying attention to traffic. Too many northbound cars don't make the shift. It is surprising that there aren't more accidents!

I saw the note about the "shoulders" on Highway N a couple of years ago. It was far more dangerous after the crumbled asphalt was added! Thankfully, it washed away very quickly.

Matt M.

8:44 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

We need to use some of the Hwy funds our savior (sarcasm) Obama is allocating to utilize imminent domain and land grab from Hwy N to Hwy Z and make it @ least three lanes, if not five. Once 367 comes through Hwy N will become more of a death trap than it already is. Wentzville needs to plan ahead and steal the land from the owners from Ronald Reagan Dr. to Hwy Z.

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Linda Wilson Horn

10:44 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

See my previous answer on Route N. Working on long term plans there when funding is available. No new funding is coming yet.

Jackie Marler

9:27 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

Linda - In response to your comment on Route N, you mentioned adding shoulders. A couple years ago, MoDOT added what appeared to be small shoulders to Route N between Hwy Z and Hepperman. Those are terrible, and I hope that's not the plan for the rest of N. Those "shoulders" give the driver the appearance that they have another 6-12 inches on the sides of the road, but they don't even support a person standing on them... they just crumble.

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Linda Wilson Horn

10:19 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

I'm checking on the design of the shouldering work. I don't know if it will be thicker than what has been done before. I will post an update if I get more information from the engineers today.
I would note that the purpose of the shoulders is to provide the extra space to make corrections. Many of the crashes have been from overcorrecting when the tires go off the edge of pavement. By adding a small shoulder, it provides that correction room. Another key is to slow down the speed on these roads. They were not designed for all of the development that has occurred along them. Now we need the funding to widen the road, but in the meantime, we are providing the extra space for safety.

BLT

9:33 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

Regarding the light at Manchester & Ries Rd. This was always a short light. (and long to wait for another) Now they’ve added more traffic with the addition of Wendy’s. Although they added an additional turning lane to allow going East, it has actually made it worse. If you were in the Madison Seven Trails apartment complex heading south, you can only get 3 cars through tops and that's assuming the middle lane is not turning East. I keep getting caught as a 3rd car going through and the car in front of me slows down and turns left leaving me in the middle of Manchester. As a 3rd car, that is annoying, dangerous and one of these times I’m going to get a ticket that I couldn’t avoid. If it’s a green light when I’m taking off and it turns yellow and red by midway point, there is a problem. In addition, more than 3 cars should be able to get through the light in optimal conditions especially with the increased volume of traffic.

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Linda Wilson Horn

10:17 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

I will have the signal timing checked to see if we can't get more than 3 cars through. In regards to the yellow/red. The law is if you enter the intersection on yellow, you are allowed to complete your movement. You should not enter the intersection on red.

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BLT

10:39 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

Thank you. Regarding color when entering...Many times you enter and it's green and turns red by the time you're in the middle due to people braking, turning very slowely, etc...As far as what is legal gets thrown out the window with the cameras there, doesn't it? They have no way to determine what color the light was when you started. Or does it? I don't know how the cameras function

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Linda Wilson Horn

10:58 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

If the intersection has a red light camera on it, it depends on how it is set up. My basic understanding is the camera is focused at the white solid intersection line. If you cross that line when the light turns red, you will see the flash of the camera taking your picture for a ticket. The other general rule is that you shouldn't cross the white solid line unless you can clear the intersection. Cars sitting in the middle are referred to by the police as "blocking the box", or the center of the intersection. I know a lot of people do this when turning left. I also understand it is hard when the person in front of you stops or goes really slow. You have to make a judgement call as a driver whether to enter the intersection or not.
In regards to the signal timing, I have sent a note for a call report for our signal crews to check the timing. Hopefully that can help your problem.

Rachel Retzlaff

9:59 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

How many snow plow trucks are allocated to the St. Louis County area? Is MoDot completely responsible for plowing all Interstate highways?

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Linda Wilson Horn

10:30 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

We have 200 trucks and 450 employees who work 12 hours shifts to keep all the equipment running around the clock in the St. Louis area (St Louis City and County, ST Charles, Franklin and Jefferson counties). We are responsible for the interstates, the major highways like 100, 364, 370, Lindbergh, etc and also the lettered routes in each county.

Marcia Jones

10:14 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

Perhaps this should go to St. Charles Traffic Div. rather than MoDOT, but I'm wondering if the timing for the very early morning (5:00 am) traffic lights at Zumbehl and West Clay can be adjusted. When I'm westbound on Clay and the northbound light at Zumbehl is green, the timing is approximately 1 minute. Then the wait for southbound Zumbehl is also about 45 seconds to a minute. Finally westbound Clay gets a green for about 30 seconds and then eastbound Clay for about 20 seconds or so. If I happen to hit the eastbound Clay portion, I have to wait for around 2 1/2 to 3 minutes before I can proceed to my destination. This timing works for the heavier traffic periods (like in the afternoon when I'm returning from work), but it is so frustrating to sit there when there are no other vehicles. It's a waste of gas and a waste of time.

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Kalen Ponche

10:26 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

Marcia, I've alerted someone in the city's planning department to your question. Hopefully they'll respond!

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Linda Wilson Horn

10:32 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

I'm going to check with our staff too. Since the signal at Zumbehl and West Clay is right next to the Zumbehl and I-70 interchanges, we may have them all connected together. Thanks for the detail on the timing and your directions. That really helps the traffic engineers understand the problem you are having. If I get any info back on this, I will post it later today.

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Kalen Ponche

11:11 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

Marcia, Kevin Corwin with St. Charles City says this is a MoDOT signal.

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Linda Wilson Horn

11:20 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

The signal timing here is run by MoDOT because it is part of the overall signal timing for the I-70 interchange. Our traffic engineer just changed the signal timing for off peak hours so it should cycle 30 seconds for each direction. That should help it move around the different movements faster. Not much more we can do here with the tight spacing of all these signals going through the interchange. I do believe the City of St. Charles has an upcoming project to add some turn lanes at this intersection, so that should help this situation.

Frank Ruzicka

10:31 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

Are there any plans in the works to assist in the traffic issues on Sappington Road in front of Long Elementary. I have heard after the replacement of the water main is completed that it will be re-configured to include turn lanes? It sure seems that between the school traffic light and the 2 yellow warning lights and the reduced speed limit of 25MPH this could be a very safe exit for both cars and buses coming out of Long. Does MoDot have any thoughts or ideas?

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Linda Wilson Horn

10:37 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

I believe Sappington Road is managed by St. Louis County. I will check with my counterpart at the County and see if I can get an update for you today. If I do, I will post it here.

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Linda Wilson Horn

11:44 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

Here's the answer I got from David Wrone at St. Louis County Highways:
Per our Division of Highway Planning: We expect to let our Sappington Road infrastructure project (encompassing that portion of Sappington from Gravois to Big Bend) some time this spring. This is a relatively large project - $1.3 million, with federal funds accounting for 80 percent of that figure. Long Elementary is considering revisions to their internal circulation, and, because those potential revisions would impact Sappington Road, we’re working with the school. School district officials also are working directly with City of Crestwood, since the city also has streets that would be affected by the changes. As part of our infrastructure project, St. Louis County plans to remove the existing signalized pedestrian crossing and install a new signalized intersection at the school entrance.

JW

10:58 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

The merge from Forest Park Parkway onto 170 North is very short and I've seen a lot of near accidents there. Since the Ladue Rd exit is only a few hundred feet away, would it be possible to make a merge lane that would extend from the Forest Park Parkway exit to the Ladue exit? There is existing roadway here that is currently being used as a shoulder but the lines could be redrawn to implement this. I think this would make it a lot safer.

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Linda Wilson Horn

1:06 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

Our engineering department will review the situation and see if it's possible to do this given the pavement we have there. Since I'm going to be doing this Patch Pro chat once a month, I will post an update hopefully in March.

Dan Moore

11:17 am on Friday, February 22, 2013

Linda, Does the State control Norht and South St Peters Parkway? If so, the stop light timing couldn't be much worse. Going westbound after you get off at the Jungermann/Woodstone exit, the lights stop you at every intersection, Woodstone, Jungermann, Central School, Kisker, etc. Kisher is especially bad. I know it's a new road but it has been completed for several months now. Are the lights along here hooked together?

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Linda Wilson Horn

12:02 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

The outer roads to Route 364 (called North and South St Peters Parkway) are timed by MoDOT. I'm checking with our traffic engineer on the timing. What time of day does this happen to you?
Kisker is definitely one of the hardest to time because there is so much demand coming from Kisker. We get complaints that the Kisker traffic has to wait too long and we get complaints that the outer road has to wait too long. It's a tough spot. I will get you an update as I get one.

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Linda Wilson Horn

1:20 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

I found out from our traffic engineer that the cross streets along the outer roads currently aren't programmed to be in coordination all along Route 364. We are working on a contract for signal optimization to get this work done later this year.

Peggy Dodel-Britt

12:29 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

I live off of Forder Road, and I've noticed that there are street lights from Ringer to Telegraph, but none from Ringer to Lemay Ferry, which makes it very dark. Alot of people walk for exercise on the sidewalks from Ringer to Lemay Ferry. There are telephone poles on the one side of Forder, so lights could be attached on them. Is there any chance that lights could be added from Lemay Ferry to Ringer in the near future?

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Linda Wilson Horn

1:41 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

I'm checking with St. Louis County on your question. MoDOT does not maintain Forder Road.

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Linda Wilson Horn

1:56 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

I heard back from St Louis County and was told the street lights are not theirs either. Sometimes it can be how the subdivisions were built and some developers put in street lights and some didn't. I'm not sure who you should check with. The County said they don't install street lights and have very few that they maintain. MoDOT is similar on the streets we maintain.

D.C.

1:20 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

Why is the intersection at northbound Route 94 to head west on Route 370 not a "left turn yield on green" intersection? I use these roads all the time and have seen people run the red light to go west on 370 several times when nobody is approaching from the other direction.

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Linda Wilson Horn

2:19 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

I checked with our traffic engineer on this location. It is a spot that we are reviewing for new equipment to allow yielding lefts.

Brian Feldt

1:35 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

I'm still a bit confused about where exactly the Page Extension will be going through O'Fallon and Dardenne Prairie. My parents live near Bates Road and the Highway N intersection. How close will they be to 364? And where would their closes exit to that highway be? Thanks!

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Linda Wilson Horn

1:46 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

At the spot you mentioned, Bates and Route N, you will notice a grassy area between the South Outer Road and Route N. This is where the new road will be located between the two existing roads. Right now Route N turns and connects to the South Outer Road right at Bates. When construction is complete, this will not be there anymore. Route N will be built to go straight to Bryan Road and be a north outer road. There will be a full interchange at Bryan Road with access to the new route 364. There are some basic maps of this on the project website, www.modot.org/route364.

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Brian Feldt

1:55 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

Thanks Linda! And thanks for answering all these questions. You're doing a great job.

DJ

2:56 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

Has MoDOT ever thought about making the lane stripes so that you can see them in the rain and at night? Other states use some sort of paint to make them visible. It's extremely hard to see the stripes (read virtually non-existent) when it rains.

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Linda Wilson Horn

3:06 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

There are countless tiny glass beads within the paint that we use to stripe the highways. The beads are there to create more reflectivity from headlights. One of the most effective things for rainy conditions is reflective pavement markers. You will see these predominantly used in southern states. We are researching and looking for ones that are resistant to our snow plows. It is the snow plow that does the most harm to the reflectivity of the striping. That is why every spring we restripe all of of highways in April and May to give them a fresh coat with glass beads once the snow season is over.

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Jackie Marler

3:34 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

DJ - I couldn't agree more. We had reflectors on the roads up in Chicago, and the paint was definitely more reflective. I make this comment to my husband almost every day on either Hwy N or I-70 crossing the bridge in the right-most lane heading east. On the latter, those stripes were just done in November, and they're already so faded that you have to guess where you're supposed to be.

DJ

3:38 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

Thanks. I just noticed that I'm on the O'Fallon Patch, but I'm actually in University City. Wherever I drive in the vicinity of UCity, Clayton, St. Louis City, Maplewood, Richmond Heights, etc., the stripes disappear in the rain. Maybe I need to contact local governments about this problem?

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Linda Wilson Horn

3:44 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

I'm answering MoDOT questions for the entire St Louis area. Who you need to talk to about striping is dependent on which road you are having the problem with. MoDOT roads do have striping that loses visibility especially by this time each year. So it could be a MoDOT road. If you tell me which road, I can tell you which agency is responsible.

Linda Wilson Horn

3:54 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

I'm signing off for the day. thanks for the variety of questions. I'm going to be on Patch pro again each month so I look foward to your questions next month.

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Jackie Marler

3:56 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

Linda- thanks for doing this! It was very educational and I hope more of our state's agencies will consider doing the same!

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Jordan Lanham

3:57 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

Thanks so much for answering all of the reader questions Linda! Have a great weekend!

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Ryan Martin

7:24 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013

Thank you for your time, Linda, especially following a busy winter storm!

Karen Clark

2:22 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013

1.) With the increased traffic on the Daniel Boone Bridge due to lane closures on the Blanchette, why did they decide to do blasting now? It doesn't make sense to have closures on one of the alternate routes. Drivers in the Lake St. Louis/Wentzville area do not have easy access to the Page extension. 2.) How much extra time should we plan in our commutes due to blasting?

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